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ilya150
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PostPosted: August 3, 2008 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michael Massacre wrote:
Evanesco wrote:
lozinja wrote:
Evanesco wrote:
Look into the background of most rap songs, and you will find a meaning behind it.

But, it does really rely on your definition of Music. My definition of music is: anything with a meaning behind it, and has musical sounds to go with it, is music.


yeh well that's pretty much my definition.

and it kind of does rely on my definition because it's my opinion.

the rap music i don't like is the mainstream rap music. that stuff has no meaning.
i've heard rap that's not mainstream and i actually like it. it's bareable because it has SOME meaning.
but you can't tell me that 50c or nelly have any meaning in their "music"


Try Flipsyde, they are the best out of it all. And I hate 50c and Nelly.

(I gotta go now)


No Tech n9ne is the best in the game.

period.


Now techno is the best...... Not really popular in America though Sad. Are there discotecs here?
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PostPosted: August 3, 2008 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol, techno is music, but rap isn't?

And Tech N9ne is a rapper.

http://therealtechn9ne.com/
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PostPosted: August 3, 2008 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

of the lore wrote:
Pop music encourages girls to kiss other girls and like it.
Country music encourages people to damage their ex's cars, and chase people around with hunting rifles.
Rock music encourages violence, drugs, and degrades woman more than a lot of rap music.

It's really quite silly to refuse to admit it's music when it is.. music.

Spoiler:

Our songs are supposed to be the voice of our soul
Not bought and sold, not all controlled
Bring a little fire when the world get cold
Let me shed a few tears and to me you went gold
People need more freedom
Children need to hear more truth when ya'll teach em'
Damn I want to hear a plan from the dude preaching
Got new seeds with true needs and who's leading
I truly believe every word I've ever uttered on a drum break
Right or wrong, life go on but it wasn't nothing fake
I demand you start listening to the crowd
If not - we gon burn this bitch to the ground



Spoiler:

My wardrobe is jeans and faded shirts
A mixture of what I like, and what I wear to work
I'm not mean and got a neck full of razor bumps
I'm not the classic profile of what the ladies want
You might think I'm depressed as can be
But when I look in the mirror I see sexy ass me
And if that's somethin that you cant respect then that's peace



Spoiler:

The TV got us reachin for stars
Not the ones between Venus and Mars, the ones that be readin for parts
Some people get breast enhancements and penis enlargers
Saturday sinners Sunday morning at the feet of the Father
They need somethin to rely on, we get high on all types of drug
When, all you really need is love



What's so bad about that?


Uhh she said to him
I want you to be a father
He's your little boy
And you don't even bother, like
Brother without the R
And he's starting to harbor
Cool on food for thought
But for you he's a starver
Starting to use red markers on his work
His teacher says he knows he's much smarter
But he's hurt
Used to hand his homework in first
Like he was the classroom starter
Burst to tears let him know she sees us
Now he's fighting in class
Got a note last week that said he might not pass
Asked me if his daddy was sick of us
Cause you ain't never pick him up
Ya see what his problem is
He don't know where his poppa is
No positive male role model
To play football and build railroad models
He's making a hole and you've been diggin' it
Cause you ain't been kicking it
Since he was old enough to hold bottles
He wasn't supposed to get introduced to that
He don't deserve to get used to that
Now I ain't asking you for money or to come back to me
some days it ain't sunny but it ain't so hard
Just breaks my heart
When I try to provide
And he says mommy that ain't your job
To be a man
I tried to make him understand
That I'm his number one fan
But it's like he won from the stands
You know the world is out to get him
So why don't you give him a chance
It's like..


Lupe Fiasco; He Say She Say
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PostPosted: August 3, 2008 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's actually my favorite Lupe song.
I love all of Food & Liquor, though. Not a big fan of the Cool.

There are probably less rap songs "promoting" violence and such out there than there are songs like what me and Trey posted.
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PostPosted: August 3, 2008 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

of the lore wrote:
That's actually my favorite Lupe song.
I love all of Food & Liquor, though. Not a big fan of the Cool.

There are probably less rap songs "promoting" violence and such out there than there are songs like what me and Trey posted.


I like The Cool; Go Go Gadget Flow, Paris Tokyo, Hip Hop Saved My Life and Superstar are great songs.

But Food and Liquor is a great album. Lupe is one of the few rappers who survived the underground-to-mainstream transition.
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PostPosted: August 3, 2008 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go Go Gadget Flow has a great beat, but the "Go go go go go go.. ect.." thing gets to me. ;x Lupe really is incredible, though. He brings a style to the table that no one else can capture.
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PostPosted: August 3, 2008 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saddest song ever, made by Flipsyde:

Happy Birthday...so make a wish

Verse 1:
Please accept my apologies, wonder what would have been
Would you've been a little angel or an angel of sin?
Tom-boy running around, hanging with all the guys.
Or a little tough boy with beautiful brown eyes?
I payed for the murder before they determined the sex
Choosing our life over your life meant your death
And you never got'a chance to even open your eyes
Sometimes I wonder as a foetus if you faught for your life?
Would you have been a little genius in love with math?
Would you have played in your school clothes and made me mad?
Would you have been a little rapper like your papa da Piper?
Would you have made me quit smokin' by finding one of my lighters?
I wonder about your skintone and shape of your nose?
And the way you would have laughed and talked fast or slow?
Think about it every year, so I picked up a pen
Happy birthday, love you whoever you woulda been
Happy birthday...

Chorus:
what I thought was a dream (make a wish)
Was as real as it seemed (happy birthday)
What I thought was a dream (make a wish)
Was as real as it seemed

I made a mistake!

Verse 2:
I've got a millon excuses to why you died
Bet the people got their own reasons for homicide
Who's to say it woulda worked, and who's to say it wouldn't have?
I was young and strugglin' but old enough to be your dad
The fear of being my father has never disappeared
Pondering frequently while I'm sippin' on my beer
My vision of a family was artificial and fake
So when it came time to create I made a mistake
Now you've got a little brother maybe he's really you?
Maybe you really forgave us knowin' we was confused?
Maybe everytime that he smiles it's you proudly knowin' that your father's doin' the right thing now?
I never tell a woman what to do with her body
But if she don't love children then we can't party
Think about it every year, so I picked up a pen
Happy birthday, love you whoever you woulda been
Happy birthday...

Chorus:
What I thought was a dream (make a wish)
Was as real as it seemed (happy birthday)
What I thought was a dream (yeah, make a wish)
Was as real as it seemed

I made a mistake!

And from the heavens to the womb to the heavens again
From the endin' to the endin', never got to begin
Maybe one day we could meet face to face?
In a place without time and space
Happy birthday...

From the heavens to the womb to the heavens again
From the endin' to the endin', never got to begin
Maybe one day we could meet face to face?
In a place without time and space

Happy birthday...

Chorus:
What I thought was a dream (make a wish)
Was as real as it seemed (happy birthday)
What I thought was a dream (make a wish)
Was as real as it seemed

I made a mistake...!


But its my favorite.
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PostPosted: August 3, 2008 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

of the lore wrote:
Go Go Gadget Flow has a great beat, but the "Go go go go go go.. ect.." thing gets to me. ;x Lupe really is incredible, though. He brings a style to the table that no one else can capture.


I know what you mean. Him and Kanye are the future faces for good mainstream rappers.
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PostPosted: August 3, 2008 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only rap I hate is gangster rap and today's rap. Rap form the 80s and 90s is pretty good.
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PostPosted: August 3, 2008 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alot of rap is good stuff, but heres the reason why i loathe gangster rappers like 50Cent

[warning; obscene language]

Spoiler:

We over here... with some fat chicks

[50]
Nah, I don't be fuckin wit them fat bitches
That's Yayo

[Chorus]
Don't be stuck on the things they say
now you know it's a nasty world (you know it's a nasty world)
I ain't fuckin wit you anyway
cause I know your a nasty girl (know your a nasty girl)
I ain't never gon discriminate
so let me compliment your eyes (compliment my eyes)
Yeah, It's nothin' but a little baby phat phat

[50]
Them Twinkies got your ass gettin' fat fat
Them cookies got your ass gettin' fat fat
That cake got your ass gettin' fat fat
Bitch you grown, that ain't baby fat fat

In the gym I see your ass up on the stair master
But you got it on level 2, bitch go a little faster
Look girl I ain't gon lie, I'll tell you how I feel
They should hand cuff your big ass to the treadmill
You wanna work out now, cause you know its gettin' hot
And your big ass fin to pop all up out the halter top
Find the right chick, wearing some tight shit, and it's on
See your ass wearing some tight shit, we like "She wrong"

[Chorus]
Don't be stuck on the things they say
now you know it's a nasty world (know it's a nasty world)
I ain't fuckin wit you anyway
cause I know your a nasty girl - You's a nasty girl (know your a nasty girl)
I ain't never gon discriminate
so let me compliment your eyes (compliment my eyes)

[50]
Yeah, you got some nice eyes, but you's a big bitch man
Yeah, It's nothin' but a little baby phat phat
That Burger King dun got your ass fat fat
McDonald's dun got your ass fat fat
That Dominos dun got your ass fat fat
Yeah, It's nothin' but a little baby phat phat

[Lloyd Banks]
I like 'em slim in the waste, curves in the right place
A bitch wit hips, lips, and a nice face
Your appetite'll put a dent up in a nigga salary
You need to stop burnin that weed, and burn a calorie
Your attitude is like you always have gear
You got a pony tail, you ain't always have hair
I just wanna see your Capri's comin' down
Mami we run the town, stay away if you 300 pounds

[Chorus]
Don't be stuck on the things they say
now you know it's a nasty world (know it's a nasty world)
I ain't fuckin wit you anyway
cause I know your a nasty girl - You's a nasty girl (know your a nasty girl)
I ain't never gon discriminate
so let me compliment your eyes

[50]
I'll say something nice about ya eyes, cause you's a big bitch man
Yeah, It's nothin' but a little baby phat phat
Them Entenmann's dun got your ass fat fat
Them Little Debbie's dun got your ass fat fat
These cup cakes dun got your ass fat fat
Yeah, It's nothin' but a little baby phat phat

[Tony Yayo]
I ain't no trick, I ain't have to borrow with my wallet
Freakin' off in your car, on your closet
It ain't nothing wrong wit a big, strong girl
If you can cook your ass off, I'll give you the world
You can be skinny or fat, white or black
Nigga pussy is pussy so, yeah, I'll hit that
I'm a freak, sure I love minage a trois
And I really care lees if you twice my size

[Chorus]
Don't be stuck on the things they say
now you know it's a nasty world ' It's a nasty world
I ain't fuckin wit you anyway
cause I know your a nasty girl - You's a nasty girl
I ain't never gon discriminate, so let me compliment your eyes

[50]
I'm a compliment your eyes
Yayo'll fuck wit you big bitches but I'm a stay the fuck away from ya

Them Twinkies got your ass gettin' fat fat
Them cookies got your ass gettin' fat fat
That cake got your ass gettin' fat fat
Bitch you grown, that ain't baby fat fat

Stay the fuck away from, you fuckin fat bitch
Fuck wit Tony Yayo, ho



Guys like 50 Cent dont deserve to visit record studios on their parole days, let alone record filthy songs there.

And its also annoying that they don't ban 50Cent from touring for obscene and inappropriate lyrics yet they tried to ban Cannibal Corpse. grrr.
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PostPosted: August 3, 2008 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oliverwood wrote:
Alot of rap is good stuff, but heres the reason why i loathe gangster rappers like 50Cent

[warning; obscene language]

Spoiler:

We over here... with some fat chicks

[50]
Nah, I don't be fuckin wit them fat bitches
That's Yayo

[Chorus]
Don't be stuck on the things they say
now you know it's a nasty world (you know it's a nasty world)
I ain't fuckin wit you anyway
cause I know your a nasty girl (know your a nasty girl)
I ain't never gon discriminate
so let me compliment your eyes (compliment my eyes)
Yeah, It's nothin' but a little baby phat phat

[50]
Them Twinkies got your ass gettin' fat fat
Them cookies got your ass gettin' fat fat
That cake got your ass gettin' fat fat
Bitch you grown, that ain't baby fat fat

In the gym I see your ass up on the stair master
But you got it on level 2, bitch go a little faster
Look girl I ain't gon lie, I'll tell you how I feel
They should hand cuff your big ass to the treadmill
You wanna work out now, cause you know its gettin' hot
And your big ass fin to pop all up out the halter top
Find the right chick, wearing some tight shit, and it's on
See your ass wearing some tight shit, we like "She wrong"

[Chorus]
Don't be stuck on the things they say
now you know it's a nasty world (know it's a nasty world)
I ain't fuckin wit you anyway
cause I know your a nasty girl - You's a nasty girl (know your a nasty girl)
I ain't never gon discriminate
so let me compliment your eyes (compliment my eyes)

[50]
Yeah, you got some nice eyes, but you's a big bitch man
Yeah, It's nothin' but a little baby phat phat
That Burger King dun got your ass fat fat
McDonald's dun got your ass fat fat
That Dominos dun got your ass fat fat
Yeah, It's nothin' but a little baby phat phat

[Lloyd Banks]
I like 'em slim in the waste, curves in the right place
A bitch wit hips, lips, and a nice face
Your appetite'll put a dent up in a nigga salary
You need to stop burnin that weed, and burn a calorie
Your attitude is like you always have gear
You got a pony tail, you ain't always have hair
I just wanna see your Capri's comin' down
Mami we run the town, stay away if you 300 pounds

[Chorus]
Don't be stuck on the things they say
now you know it's a nasty world (know it's a nasty world)
I ain't fuckin wit you anyway
cause I know your a nasty girl - You's a nasty girl (know your a nasty girl)
I ain't never gon discriminate
so let me compliment your eyes

[50]
I'll say something nice about ya eyes, cause you's a big bitch man
Yeah, It's nothin' but a little baby phat phat
Them Entenmann's dun got your ass fat fat
Them Little Debbie's dun got your ass fat fat
These cup cakes dun got your ass fat fat
Yeah, It's nothin' but a little baby phat phat

[Tony Yayo]
I ain't no trick, I ain't have to borrow with my wallet
Freakin' off in your car, on your closet
It ain't nothing wrong wit a big, strong girl
If you can cook your ass off, I'll give you the world
You can be skinny or fat, white or black
Nigga pussy is pussy so, yeah, I'll hit that
I'm a freak, sure I love minage a trois
And I really care lees if you twice my size

[Chorus]
Don't be stuck on the things they say
now you know it's a nasty world ' It's a nasty world
I ain't fuckin wit you anyway
cause I know your a nasty girl - You's a nasty girl
I ain't never gon discriminate, so let me compliment your eyes

[50]
I'm a compliment your eyes
Yayo'll fuck wit you big bitches but I'm a stay the fuck away from ya

Them Twinkies got your ass gettin' fat fat
Them cookies got your ass gettin' fat fat
That cake got your ass gettin' fat fat
Bitch you grown, that ain't baby fat fat

Stay the fuck away from, you fuckin fat bitch
Fuck wit Tony Yayo, ho



Guys like 50 Cent dont deserve to visit record studios on their parole days, let alone record filthy songs there.

And its also annoying that they don't ban 50Cent from touring for obscene and inappropriate lyrics yet they tried to ban Cannibal Corpse. grrr.


I agree 100%. But Tupac was something Different.
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PostPosted: August 3, 2008 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rap and hip/hop is just rymhing to a beat that its and thats boring i only listen to fort minor because some linkin park members are part of it and also the flobots because some of their music is consitered alturnitive
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PostPosted: August 4, 2008 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Urgg for gods sake i never hated rap.. and theres no reason to. Just cause some artist make it look stupid doesn't necessarily mean the whole genre is. It is totally different and unique and i think its a gift that only few utilizes it very well.
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PostPosted: August 4, 2008 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WTTHENINJA wrote:
rap and hip/hop is just rymhing to a beat that its and thats boring i only listen to fort minor because some linkin park members are part of it and also the flobots because some of their music is consitered alturnitive


it's a bit more than that.
Not as easy as it sounds.
not at all.
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first time i heard it i kinda laughed.
second time i was like o crap this is gonna be a hit, i'm going to hear it waaay too much and get so sick of it.
third time i turned the radio off.
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PostPosted: August 4, 2008 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really don't like it. It's not my thing. It just has no deep meaning or emotion to me. But I don't have a problem with people who do like it. :p
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PostPosted: August 4, 2008 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

People hate it because it's actually dumb music and every single song sounds just like the rest. All the songs ever go on about is sex. I've heard a lot of these songs and it annoys me when they're on the radio a lot. >_>

The music channels on sky get infested with them now. It's not just on the kiss channel where they broadcast hip hop and rap 24/7, but I've seen other channels that seem to show it a lot now. I don't generally listen to music anyway, but I'd rather hear nothing than these cheesy songs. You don't want to listen to the words to them either. All songs are about money, girls and sex. Nothing else. I never heard one of the songs that go on about something else. So yeah, cheesy and annoying. Full stop. >_>
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PostPosted: August 4, 2008 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wapeach wrote:
People hate it because it's actually dumb music and every single song sounds just like the rest. All the songs ever go on about is sex. I've heard a lot of these songs and it annoys me when they're on the radio a lot. >_>

The music channels on sky get infested with them now. It's not just on the kiss channel where they broadcast hip hop and rap 24/7, but I've seen other channels that seem to show it a lot now. I don't generally listen to music anyway, but I'd rather hear nothing than these cheesy songs. You don't want to listen to the words to them either. All songs are about money, girls and sex. Nothing else. I never heard one of the songs that go on about something else. So yeah, cheesy and annoying. Full stop. >_>


Yep, just as I thought. =/
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PostPosted: August 4, 2008 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sammyy wrote:
It just has no deep meaning or emotion to me.


There is a lot of meaning to some of the songs and same for emotion.
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PostPosted: August 4, 2008 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I don't care what any of you say, Rap, to me, is not music, nor is Heavy Metal. Both genres are like extreme versions of Rock&Roll (the good shit) and R&B (which I do enjoy).

I'm not close-minded, I just have a different opinion; and yes, I've listened to both Rap and Heavy Metal plenty of times.
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PostPosted: August 4, 2008 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your opinion is wrong, in the sense that you cannot say what is and what isn't music. You can't say it's not music to you, and anything anyone says to the contrary doesn't apply. Because the fact is it is music. Just because you don't think so, doesn't make it any less true.
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trey wrote: