Yeah, because we all know it's the Democrats who are the ones who stand up for the wealthy and elite vs. the Republicans who represent the working man.
Meh, the Democrats always use that as their platform. I see them as representing big government and not the working people. The crappiest parties in any country always say "We represent the working man!".. and it's all crap. The only person who can represent the working man is the working man himself.
I'm afraid you've got it all wrong...The republicans could care less about the middle-class, and their health care and education. If John McCain is elected into office, there will be no universal health care. Republicans deem it a trivial matter, a privelege for only the wealthy. As for education, the democrats are working for world-class education and admittance to college for all citezens, not just the "wealthy and elite".
If you had been following Barack Obama's campaign and are watching the DNC, then perhaps you would understand. Wait for the republican convention, and then tell me about their faithful representation of the working class.
I've been watching it. And it makes me want to puke.
Universal health care has its problems too buddy, and the number of uninsured Americans has actually gone down recently. I'm sorry, but I don't want to pay for some hypochondriac's health care through taxes.
Admittance to college for all citizens? Good luck with that.
Do you not realize that the government has to pay for all that crap? Yeah, lets just give everyone everything and make every body pay for it.. then nobody will be poor.
Geez people. Take economics.
Everyone thinks Republicans are only for the wealthy and elite, and that's crap. There will always be a wealthy and elite class, and they are good at what they do or else they would not be wealthy. They are good at whatever business they take part in - but there are plenty of rich business people out there that believe in what they do and that even though they make tons of money that other people don't, they like to create jobs. They like to grow companies. They like to keep their workers happy. With that said, there's a lot of idiots out there that are greedy and abuse the system and should be locked up. But Democrats always go against big business, and their own constituents suffer because in the end, companies fail because of Democrat taxation, regulation, and overall spite towards the businesses that make America great. Everyone wants to be rich, but only a few can be. People have to see that that is NOT a bad thing and that the rich invest in many many things that are an important part of America's infrastructure. Democrats want the government to do this and that for everything - making a bloated and disorganized government even more of a bloated and disorganized government. It may sound good, but it just. doesn't. work. and history can tell you that.
Why would you want MORE power into the corporations. They are the rich old men who sit in their mansions and sling money at politicions telling them what to do and when to do it. Corporations rule this country. Under Republicans the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
um i somewhat doubt they are doing that. for one that is highly illegal... though politicians kinda do the same thing when it comes to funding their races. you know have their rich supporters pay heaps to help em get in office. but i dont think its like it was during the 19th century where they ruled everything. not even close. you want the big corporations rich and to stay rich for they employ us the poorer groups.
plus, just bc you have money doesnt mean your evil. last time i checked bill gates wasnt evil and hes the richest man alive. i have heard a lot of good things about him and what he does. he is a good example of a rich man. dont villainize money, for if you had that money you wouldnt wanted to be thought as evil just bc you earned through hard work.
Wow, I've never heard of a corporation breaking the law before. _________________
see people make a villain out of big corps. they are generally not that bad. its not like they have an imaginary gov controlling the US. they are just very rich everyday people running their companies. the only power the big wigs have is ruling their company. most of them are rather generous. my uncle was a big wig of the US BANK for many years, vice prez to be exact. he did wondrous things for people with the money he was making, and still does even though he is retired. a lot of them will dump their money into charity also, either from the goodness of their hearts or they dont want to lose it all to taxes. either case its not like they are holding onto it with bitter hands in their rich mansion. also these people, a lot of them had to work their butts off to get where they are at, like my uncle, he came from a huge family that didnt have that money, and guess what, he's a multimillionare. why should they get their money taken away? they earned it, even if it was inherited, they still have to work hard to maintain the company. its not like it all fun no work for them. also you have to remember they help economy by being rich enough to employ huge amounts of people. take the money away from them and then you raise unemployment. _________________
see people make a villain out of big corps. they are generally not that bad. its not like they have an imaginary gov controlling the US. they are just very rich everyday people running their companies. the only power the big wigs have is ruling their company. most of them are rather generous. my uncle was a big wig of the US BANK for many years, vice prez to be exact. he did wondrous things for people with the money he was making, and still does even though he is retired. a lot of them will dump their money into charity also, either from the goodness of their hearts or they dont want to lose it all to taxes. either case its not like they are holding onto it with bitter hands in their rich mansion. also these people, a lot of them had to work their butts off to get where they are at, like my uncle, he came from a huge family that didnt have that money, and guess what, he's a multimillionare. why should they get their money taken away? they earned it, even if it was inherited, they still have to work hard to maintain the company. its not like it all fun no work for them. also you have to remember they help economy by being rich enough to employ huge amounts of people. take the money away from them and then you raise unemployment.
but at the same time the jobs they have for the people are low paying. Usually no health benefits. And horrible working hours. They raise the prices and influence a monopoly. We are highly capitilists in this society. Which means the big corporations get rich and knock off the smaller ones. They control all the production sites and stuff. And ever heard of child labor in Asia? Sweatshops ring a bell? That goes unchecked in Asia. They work for nothing while the corporations increase their riches. Not caring for the people working in the shops. Its all about making money for them, no matter how many people they leave bloodied up and broken on the way to the top. As long as they make that dime that helps them sleep at night. Well i guess that makes it okay. And yes. Some of them donate money. Thats only to evade the high taxes they face. _________________
I Love Makenzie
I hate it when they tell us how far we came to be as if our peoples history started with slavery
those sweat shops are in another country, our country would never allow that to happen. as for the pay, if we didnt keep higher the minimum wage people would have more hours and more coverage, thats what happens when you raise minimum wage. it hurts the companies and they have to cut your hours or they loose too much money to keep the company going. as for low paying, most of places are like mcdonalds and walmart where you only need a high school diploma, which means you have no special training or degrees necessary so the labor you do is easy simple and doenst get you much money. _________________
those sweat shops are in another country, our country would never allow that to happen. as for the pay, if we didnt keep higher the minimum wage people would have more hours and more coverage, thats what happens when you raise minimum wage. it hurts the companies and they have to cut your hours or they loose too much money to keep the company going. as for low paying, most of places are like mcdonalds and walmart where you only need a high school diploma, which means you have no special training or degrees necessary so the labor you do is easy simple and doenst get you much money.
Okay, our boys and girls are in another country fighting for "Iraqi civilian freedom" and yet, we don't give a shit about the poor workers in the sweat shops out in Asia? The poor workers that work endless hours for American corporations... _________________ Yas and Simmy - Putting Luna on catwalks since 2008!
those sweat shops are in another country, our country would never allow that to happen. as for the pay, if we didnt keep higher the minimum wage people would have more hours and more coverage, thats what happens when you raise minimum wage. it hurts the companies and they have to cut your hours or they loose too much money to keep the company going. as for low paying, most of places are like mcdonalds and walmart where you only need a high school diploma, which means you have no special training or degrees necessary so the labor you do is easy simple and doenst get you much money.
when min wage goes up, so do prices. All we are doing by raising it is trying to keep up with inflation. therefore pushing us deeper into the present recesion. _________________
I Love Makenzie
I hate it when they tell us how far we came to be as if our peoples history started with slavery
but guaranteeing every American health care and a college education is ludicrous.
Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 3 wrote:
Everyone has the right to life, liberty, and security of person.
Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 26, Section 1 wrote:
Everyone has the right to education.
Wasn't this country founded on those ideals? How many times do I need to find 'right to life' and 'eqaul opportunity' in the Declaration of Independence for you? _________________
yeah and recessions cause unemployment bc when minimum wage is highered they cut peoples ours and lay people off, or fire people. it also hurts small businesses too.
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Okay, our boys and girls are in another country fighting for "Iraqi civilian freedom" and yet, we don't give a shit about the poor workers in the sweat shops out in Asia? The poor workers that work endless hours for American corporations...
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oh and i dont think the military can attack a our own civilian corporations. if i remember right these sweat sops are under thats countries jurisdiction. its not like the big wigs say okay we got a company here in asain make sure they are children work to death. we can have our business there but that country has its own laws. also, we are fighting in Iraq, would you like us to take on most of the world too? bc attacking the whole world isnt a good thing at all, we are only one country we cant fix anything and we are not certainly not perfect. just bc another law allows something does not mean that our companies should be taxed to death seeing how we ourselves will suffer. _________________
but guaranteeing every American health care and a college education is ludicrous.
Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 3 wrote:
Everyone has the right to life, liberty, and security of person.
Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 26, Section 1 wrote:
Everyone has the right to education.
Wasn't this country founded on those ideals? How many times do I need to find 'right to life' and 'eqaul opportunity' in the Declaration of Independence for you?
And they said that every man was is created equal. But most of the men that signed it had multiple slaves. >.> _________________
I Love Makenzie
I hate it when they tell us how far we came to be as if our peoples history started with slavery
but guaranteeing every American health care and a college education is ludicrous.
Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 3 wrote:
Everyone has the right to life, liberty, and security of person.
Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 26, Section 1 wrote:
Everyone has the right to education.
Wasn't this country founded on those ideals? How many times do I need to find 'right to life' and 'eqaul opportunity' in the Declaration of Independence for you?
And they said that every man was is created equal. But most of the men that signed it had multiple slaves. >.>
But the thing is, some of these men were actually in favor of ridding America of slaves. Tis why they signed it. _________________ Yas and Simmy - Putting Luna on catwalks since 2008!
but guaranteeing every American health care and a college education is ludicrous.
Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 3 wrote:
Everyone has the right to life, liberty, and security of person.
Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 26, Section 1 wrote:
Everyone has the right to education.
Wasn't this country founded on those ideals? How many times do I need to find 'right to life' and 'eqaul opportunity' in the Declaration of Independence for you?
And they said that every man was is created equal. But most of the men that signed it had multiple slaves. >.>
But the thing is, some of these men were actually in favor of ridding America of slaves. Tis why they signed it.
yet slavery still wasnt abolished until they were all in their graves and did nothing about it? _________________
I Love Makenzie
I hate it when they tell us how far we came to be as if our peoples history started with slavery
but guaranteeing every American health care and a college education is ludicrous.
Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 3 wrote:
Everyone has the right to life, liberty, and security of person.
Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 26, Section 1 wrote:
Everyone has the right to education.
Wasn't this country founded on those ideals? How many times do I need to find 'right to life' and 'eqaul opportunity' in the Declaration of Independence for you?
And they said that every man was is created equal. But most of the men that signed it had multiple slaves. >.>
But the thing is, some of these men were actually in favor of ridding America of slaves. Tis why they signed it.
yet slavery still wasnt abolished until they were all in their graves and did nothing about it?
I totally don't mean to offend you because I know what you're getting at and I agree. But at least slavery was eventually abolished... _________________ Yas and Simmy - Putting Luna on catwalks since 2008!
but guaranteeing every American health care and a college education is ludicrous.
Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 3 wrote:
Everyone has the right to life, liberty, and security of person.
Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 26, Section 1 wrote:
Everyone has the right to education.
Wasn't this country founded on those ideals? How many times do I need to find 'right to life' and 'eqaul opportunity' in the Declaration of Independence for you?
but nowhere does it say that the government should hand everything to you. a right to life means to live it as you please, without fear of being put to death bc you choose the wrong religion for one example. not everything you want for life is to be handed to you by the gov. liberty is a right to enjoy your freedoms, so if you want to vote, vote. you want to go to college, get the money to go and learn what you wish. security has nothing to do with college but you were just stating that article.
as for article 26 yes no matter what race or gender you are, you can get a education, they cannot deny you your education. but once again it said nowhere in that article that we should pay your way in life.
yes this country was founded on those ideals, but the fore fathers of this country were all hard working men and believed you should earn your way in life. i have read many biographies on them, and none of them were oh hey lets have the gov give them everything. they believed that people should be independent from the government and that people should live their lives in peace knowing that the gov would not interfere in their lives as long as they obeyed the laws. _________________
but guaranteeing every American health care and a college education is ludicrous.
Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 3 wrote:
Everyone has the right to life, liberty, and security of person.
Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 26, Section 1 wrote:
Everyone has the right to education.
Wasn't this country founded on those ideals? How many times do I need to find 'right to life' and 'eqaul opportunity' in the Declaration of Independence for you?
And they said that every man was is created equal. But most of the men that signed it had multiple slaves. >.>
But the thing is, some of these men were actually in favor of ridding America of slaves. Tis why they signed it.
yet slavery still wasnt abolished until they were all in their graves and did nothing about it?
I totally don't mean to offend you because I know what you're getting at and I agree. But at least slavery was eventually abolished...
slavery never ever should have started. _________________
I Love Makenzie
I hate it when they tell us how far we came to be as if our peoples history started with slavery
but nowhere does it say that the government should hand everything to you.
And who's saying the government should hand everything to you? The right to health and education are necessities that should be given to everyone so everyone starts off on an even keel. Then sort out the lazy bludgers from those that work hard.
It isn't easy to reach the "American dream" without education and healthcare. That's vastly different from having everything "handed to you".
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as for article 26 yes no matter what race or gender you are, you can get a education, they cannot deny you your education. but once again it said nowhere in that article that we should pay your way in life.
Again I'm not sure why you're confusing issues of access to healthcare and accessible and equitable education to be "paying your way in life".
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